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How to pronounce militancy in Dutch?

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i'm raj changapa and i'm with dr farooq
abdullah in srinagar at his house here
soon after the movie is a release of
kashmir files that has made waves across
the country country and also cause
controversies dr farika let me start
with asking you what is your impression
of this movie and what has it done
well i say that
this movie is a propaganda mushy movie
it has
really
raked up
a tragedy of 1990.
a tragedy which has affected every soul
in this state
not only the hindu brethren who had to
leave the state
but also the muslim majority
who were greatly affected
at that time
it was a it was a sad situation very sad
because
there was an element of
parties that were interested in
cleansing ethnic cleansing
and
some of the people played part in that
ethnic cleansing
now
the movie itself seems to partly seems
to blame you as chief minister for not
doing things and in fact being relaxed
and allowing the situation to get out of
hand
i don't think it's true
because
if the people want to know the truth
which is very bitter
the people who can tell them
rather than farooq will explain it to
them i would like to tell them to talk
to or read dullet's book
who was then
the ib chief here in the state or talk
to my chief secretary musa rasa who's
still alive thank god and living in
chennai
talk to the governor
of kerala
who is also at that time a minister in
the central government
muhammad khan he will also
like to he should also apprise you of
the things at that time
because when the situation was such
they wanted to release five of those
people who we had caught
i refused to release them this is when
you're talking about rubaya saheed's
kidnapping and the fact that it was held
and your chief minister that i was chief
minister
and
the
government of india was led by vp singh
and his associates were also from bjp
they were supporting his government
so the point here was
that i said to them don't do it because
it will be a terrible tragedy for the
nation a nation will pay a heavy price
in future
they didn't listen
so much so i was told that if you don't
do it we will dismiss you i said give it
to me in writing that your cabinet has
asked for this thing because what will
happen now it will be the last nail in
the coffin of india in the state
you are responsible for it now
then second incident that took place
was when the plane was hijacked
and they wanted to take those three
people from here
beg them
they don't do it
this will be a great tragedy you're
talking of the kangahara called the
pain that they did
and i said we should not give in to
terrorists
they given
and that is how all this thing
you know blew up because they thought
well if russians can be thrown out of
afghanistan we will be throwing india
out of in kashmir
and and we paid a better price for it
and let us not be now it looks wrong
because once the person is dead we try
to respect his
thing
but we cannot forget
at that time's governor
he put these pundits into the buses
and sent them and said in two months
i'll bring you back
because i have to use force
on these people
and in that retaliation might take place
on you therefore let me work on this
and i'll bring you back in two months 32
years where are they
you are saying that governor jaguar was
there at that time is the one that was
responsible for the pundits fleeing it
was not the situation in the valley not
you who was ruling before that was not
ruling then
because i had given the minute jack
mount came in i gave up
i said you don't trust us now you trust
him
go ahead and try to save situation
was he able to save situation
very first day
in downtown
50 people lost life
he was the man in charge
then in
big barra
people coming out of the mosque
were shot off
how many things shall i narrate to you
what happened
and you were saying that the pundits
didn't flee it was jagmon who asked them
to leave so that he could take tough
action from what you said earlier let me
tell you
there will be people who will tell you
various stories
truth will come out when you put
up on honest honorable judge
retired judge or a committee
of these people to find out the truth
you will come to know who is responsible
if pharook abdullah is responsible
farooq abdullah is ready to be hanged
anywhere in the nation
i am ready to stand that
trial but don't blame people
who are not responsible
you are saying a truth commission should
be a what is the kind of commission that
you'd want would it investigate only the
pundits or you're looking for an overall
investigation of what's happening it's
not only the pundits what about the
sikhs in church singapore
what about the muslims who died here my
mlas my
small workers my ministers who were
blown up
we had to pick their meat from the
treetops such was the situation
you know when i
first
saw this thing happening rajiv gandhi
was prime minister
and we caught these people these
all these weapons and things
at the old airport i still remember
which is under the
indian air force
all those things were laid down
to show the prime minister that look
what we have caught is this
and we caught a pakistani who had come
from there
and i saw him in
in
guest house or
dark bungalow
showed me
and i asked him
why did you come
what made you to come
he said i was told to kill you
i was ready to kill you but then i saw
that the things i was told about that
muslims are not praying in the mosque
there is so much this thing and that
thing this i found was wrong
i made a mistake that i came who was
this militant that would uh come in from
pakistan somebody had come pakistani
fellow
and i was shown
this man
those soldiers those
officers are still alive
who took me to see that that man i was
chief minister now a lot of people are
saying that all the killers
apart from the ones that you had
mentioned whether it was yasir malik who
had confessed on television or
karate none of these people have been
prosecuted in 32 years who's to blame
for this let me tell you
when they released bitter karate
who released him
did national conference government
release him or was it government of
india that released
on what basis did they release
and when they took those people to
kandahar
the very first man in that
latram
he had shot up my first cousin and i was
conversing for
nawabsab of bhopal
in the in the election parliamentary
election
at that time
and i heard my first cousin is shot off
my mla from that very area
downtown was shot by the same man a very
man blew up a young man on the bridge
with all the bombs on him and pressed a
button to frighten people
who took him that was the good time
who took
who took these people
when i objected to it i said don't do it
they have connections here they have
contacts here
this will be a greatest threat to our
security they don't listen
they didn't listen
so who that's why i want them to
investigate
i want them to investigate honestly
all these killings
rape of those our kashmiri women
in
kupala i want all this to be
investigated so that the nation knows
the truth
time has come one nation must hear the
truth
and must live with the
truth and when we're talking of closure
of this after all there's been great
tragedy in the valley what do you think
would be important for closure of all
these things the pundits coming back is
that possible also all these cases being
prosecuted what is the way forward
we forward is to win the people's hearts
whether they're pundits whether they are
muslims whether they're sikhs whoever is
a part of this nation
and to also
heal the wounds of the rest of the
nation
after this film
the wounds are very
heavily
in everybody's heart
because this film has created that
tragedy
i think the prime minister and his
government
must try and heal those wounds
immediately before india goes into a
spiral which will be difficult to stop
when you say wounds this includes hatred
what are you saying
total hatred against the muslim
community one community
which is tragedy
i don't say what happened was good that
we
welcome it no
i think it was the greatest tragedy that
even in 47
when invaders were on our border
national conference stood up
to see that not a single hindu
is affected in any way
we paid the price of five tongawalas who
took some of these
hindus to
jammu and they were killed in nagrota
we still accepted that and did not allow
the atmosphere to go bad
national conference history is that
now the government has you know made
this
film tax-free and has advocated the
prime minister himself has talked about
this film what is your sense of of that
particular move
i think they want to
further
penetrate into people's hearts of hatred
that is a tragedy
they're saying that every policeman
every soldier everybody
sees this movie
so that the hate is so extreme
as was in germany that hitler and
gobbles created
and
the jews
six million jews had to pay the price
how many million will pay the price in
india i do not know
now you had met the prime minister
during that whole process a couple of
years ago what was the thing that you
had advocated to him and do you see that
in some ways
has he been able to do what
you know he said we'd start a dialogue
i asked the prime minister straight away
i had just recovered from kowitt
but still i got there because i thought
the prime minister has called us we
should go and talk to him
he is prime minister of the whole nation
not our one community
he represents every indian
so we went
and when i spoke to him i told him very
frankly
we don't trust you and you don't trust
us
let us try and create the trust
which will build
future
of our nation
he promised us
in his speech
that dildori
or
dele seduri
he will try to eliminate
nothing has happened in that direction
it is not development
it is not whether you send us gold or
you send us silver is
it is how you heal the hearts
hearts cannot be healed by making roots
and bridges and water
ways
there is something more than that
is a trust
we have to create that trust in each
other
that we can survive
together
live together
progress together and be happy together
rather than created animosities within
people now it's been almost two and a
half years since the government has
abrogated article 370 what is the
progress you've seen and what is your
view on that
well they told the nation
very frankly when they did this they
locked us up
and even then the home minister lied in
the house
that pharaoh abdullah is free
and that he can go anywhere i can't
bring them here
luckily i was able to get out of this
door
and meet the media that clip is still
there with you people
and i said i am i'm arrested
and spent eight months in my house
my son spent alone in that other place
so they said that this article
370 is the one that is creating all the
tragedies
and that this militancy that is here
will be wiped out when this article is
gone
i want to ask the government of india
today
the home minister who made this
announcement
has
militancy gone
are people not still dying
are bombs not going on everywhere even
yesterday in trial and other places
these things are happening today they're
not coming from pakistan
are here our people
what is making them to do this
there must be something
investigate this
why are they feeling alienated that they
are ready to give their life
when they know that death is on the
corner
i think time has come
when we must
try to find the cause
and treat it
rather than allowing it to drift till it
becomes so dangerous
but we do not know what will be the end
you don't see development happened as a
result of it they say the security
situation is improved there's
development going on
tell me
do you see security people in every
corner
if you see soldier in every corner
then is it really peaceful do you see
security people like this in any other
state
in every corner in every
in every how outside every house
do you see a security person with laced
with all the weapons that he has got
do you see those trucks that are
standing everywhere
with soldiers do you see them
anywhere so is the situation normal if
the situation was normal would they be
there
and imagine the budget that they
presented
out of our budget of the state
80 percent is spent on security
twenty percent on development
the whole development you expect in
twenty percent
and those people who stand with the
nation
their security is removed
why should they stand with the nation
tomorrow
when you cannot defend them
who are you fighting
you're fighting your own people
the very people who stood
where were they in 96 when we took out a
you know when we stood up for election
when nobody was ready to stand for
election
they also say that subsequent
governments after 1990 and the pundits
fled didn't make enough efforts to bring
the pundits back when your party was in
power what was the kind of thing to tell
you
i made an effort
gujarat was the prime minister
first move we made
kept fifth buses ready 50 buses i will i
hope those people will remember in jammu
to bring them back
and they
we had
one dhamma incident where innocent
hindus were killed
we had bad gum where innocent hindus
were killed
we stopped
we said we don't want blood on our hands
till the situation improves we cannot
bring them back
because such was the move of our
neighbor
and subsequently your government was in
power your party's government was in
power between 2008 they tried they've
tried all the time look at the amount of
tell me in these eight years what have
they done
our governments from that time
thanks to manmohan singh ji
we're able to give
over 4 000 jobs
that were created here for kashmiri
pundits
so we thought by bringing them their
families will come in and they will be
here
settling down slowly and slowly
second thing we did was their
stipends was given they were far
increased
the rations were increased in everywhere
we tried to make them comfortable
wherever they were
have these people done that
even today some people haven't got
stipend for some so many months
they should answer that
they would say that we've abolished
abrogated article 370 and therefore
we're making this a more secure thing
and this would enable the pundits to
come back i'm just putting it up if they
do that tell me
recently
when some of the when this
chemist was killed
been through
every single hindu employee that had
come
overnight ran away back to jammu
tell me
is this what 370 has abrogation did
why were they not able to stop them
they're all the force that they have
here
why were they not able to stop those 3
000 or 4 000 employees hindu employees
from running away to jammu
they should answer
that and what is your assessment of
before the article 370 is abrogated
they've been now seven and a half years
in power what do you think they have
what is their assessment of their uh you
know work that they've done for the
kashmiri pundits
i think you should ask the kashmiri
pundits and you should see the statement
of chirangu
dr changu who is one of their leaders
i wish i could show you that statement
that he made
try to trace that
and that will show you
he openly says it that you have done
nothing for us
he says it to home minister speaking
frankly to home and he says what have
you done nothing
what we got is from man monsign
and you say we have created
accommodations for you we don't want
accommodations
we want to go home
we want to live in our home there
he says it to him
just taking a little bit back sir
you you are somehow blamed as though
you're stuck you started the fire you
would come into power
you would you know let the situation
deteriorate the way it was during the
80s that allowed the kind of you know
militancy to gain strength what is your
point on that well in 83 i won the
election
then also that they said i rigged the
election
and they bought my people and
were able to dismiss me in 84.
this is the congress you were saying
that
that's what happened right because i
didn't share seats
so
if they say that we rigged the election
in 87 right tell me
i asked this nation
when you go for election
you have your party symbol
either a hand or the lotus or whatever
cycle or whatever
symbol the
election commission gives you
what was the symbol in 87 use by maf
this is the muslim muslim united front
what did they use
their symbol was inkpot and the pen
they used a symbol of allah on the flag
and symbol of prophet muhammad on the
flag is that permissible by the election
commission
did the election commission react to
that
did the people of india react to that
how many of them were there four of them
and if we rigged the election or
anywhere in india rigging is done is it
not reported to the election commission
is it not then the candidate cannot go
to the court he could have gone to the
supreme court high court are you talking
of the 1987 election yes i'm telling you
okay should i not have gone
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my ministers lost election
if they say that we have reached it to
such an extent then why should my
minister lose
they were sub lost
on our senior ministers in anarthana
if i had to rig the election then i
should have seen that he wins
they were saying that saladin would also
stood now of course this thing and
therefore he lost
we say we read this election all right
i said suppose we did
his election why did he not use the
methods that government of india had put
election commission had put
you should have gone to the election
commission you should have gone to the
court
and made a man who had stood against him
to to to be thrown out when they could
throw in indira gandhi out did they not
in the election
they also say that this rajiv gandhi
of the agreement that happened in 87 why
was this there i mean there's a bit of
history that and this was what led to
the rigging and therefore they wanted a
government that they could control no no
no not at all
please
four people seats if they say we are
rigged
would they make a government
why doesn't government of india and
people of india understand
what is what is the tragedy with them
why don't they understand the truth
rajiv gandhi and i why did we meet yeah
what was the reason
we had
got a majority
but i thought we have to work with delhi
we have to develop the place delhi has
all the funds and they will be the ones
who will help us
but it didn't happen
finally sir i know we've gone back to
history
in terms of closure in terms of what
needs to be done ahead what would be the
two or three things you would recommend
that need to be done
they have to win the confidence of the
people
without this agenda of hindu hindu hindu
hindu
without that
india is a secular nation it belongs to
everyone every single indian whether
he's hindu muslim sikh christian
buddhist whoever he is or he has no
religion
he's part of this nation
that is what we need
we need to build that fabric back again
that this nation belongs to every one of
us
and every one of us is responsible for
its future for its progress for its
prosperity
and in particular german kashmir yes yes
in jammu kashmir also
would you have to do it and i tell them
frankly
it is not by force
you may bring the entire indian army
you will never be able to win the hearts
of the people you have to work
in a different manner
you have to understand what pains them
and try to remove that pain
and does this pain include having an
elections
bringing people's representation back
making it into a state
everything
stop these propagandas that you are
doing against one particular community
secondly
try
and have
these
poor brothers and sisters who are still
living in miserable conditions in rest
of the
state or the country
back home
with honor and dignity
thirdly
not only them but every other muslim who
has also run away or the sikh was run
away bring them with honor back to home
third when you hold elections hold them
honestly
don't have your force to rig them
don't have your machines which will
rigged them
you will never bring people by doing
that
anything restore statehood
or yes what would you say it is
important
division of the state
okay i'm surprised
i mean
union territories become state this is
the first example in the country
i think in the world it must be where
state which is supposed to be the crown
of india to be cut into two
strange
well doctor of the lord only this yes
and then the
delimitation commission
look at the way they have divided
the seats
i mean can you beat this that a
parliamentary seat of one particular
anantang district i'll tell you
he has the member of parliament has to
be part of the other side of the
mountain rajori and punch
how is he going to be able to cater to
those people's problems and cater to the
problems from this side of the mountain
how many things they have done like this
so that they will be able to win a
majority
and make a government will that
government be able to heal the people's
wounds or will it increase the wounds of
people
they should think about it
and seriously think about it you think
the delimitation commission is trying to
be weighted towards
you ask anybody
don't ask anybody in the state
ask their people who are supportive of
their bjp ask them to
is that
you think that the government wants to i
mean the party wants to bring in a hindu
chief minister would hindu chief
minister
they want bjp rule would have people
being part of them would hindu chief
minister be acceptable in german kashmir
they can do anything they want to do let
them try they have tried many
experiments let them try this experiment
rules
they are pushing this state
into such hands that god help you
you're not averse to if in a proper
elections some of the party wins if
there is an honest election
and there is honest delimitation
i wouldn't mind whoever becomes chief
minister because people want him
not become trust
don't trust people
can you beat this
the minister of government of india
comes into couture
inaugurates a statue of maharaja gulab
singh
creator of the state
jammu kashmir and ladakh
i want to ask that minister
where is that state of maharaja
collapsing
does it exist
if it doesn't exist what is the
reason of your putting up that statue
on the entry of the state
explain this to the people of this state
and to the rest of the nation
dr abula we have spoken right across on
all the issues both past and present and
i thank you for taking the time out to
speaking to india today magazine that
was dr farooq abdullah at his residence
in srinagar speaking about his views on
the current situation thank you very
much

i'm raj changapa and i'm with dr farooq

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militancy::noun | Spocien Dictionary

militancy

noun

a militant aggressiveness

Type	Words
Synonyms	combativeness, militance
Type of	aggressiveness
Has types	scrappiness
Derivation	militant

How to pronounce militancy in Dutch?

militancy::noun | Spocien Dictionary

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