fairly quickly because it was decided fairly quickly
to cut spending before europe had
actually
stepped in I had to go there explain
what had actually gone wrong why
it had gone so horribly wrong in two
reports and in conversations with the
studio as we have it from greece
at the parliament or at the
acropolis i have to take care of my headset because of
what this is about him you yes we can't handle it
anymore and fell in all directions
okay i think it's better goes
well
so this was what I found fidelity is a bit
thicker than in real life but that does
n't matter
it sounds a bit crazy but for me it
was just work I had it before went
back in time we had the
bank crisis in america you
all remember i had been to
washington new york
lehman brothers then in
the netherlands bank went under
abn amro fortis dsb we had even had
it before the greek crisis
broke out on us
it sounds a bit blasé but for
a journalist there is such a debt
crisis
yes what do you think yes yes that will
soon be over or they will solve this
again in europe I really never
expected that I would be there like that get involved with
them and that I would come back there as often
as I did let's have
a look
and because it was about something we also
have it was about the euro and the euro
it has at that time and in the years
after that a few times been on the verge
of falling apart
and the euro seems it all seems
very good go hear and that so much
more about
but i tell you it is not
quite over there and don't like
endangering our common currency
last year was perhaps the most
significant 2015
when i worked together in greece for two and a half
months that was not
only for the nos
but also to work on the book together
with my colleague conny keessen in athens
the correspondent of us and what what we
believe this is still
nice to tell in 2010
this was the occupation of the acropolis
that was already in may 2010 when the
communists occupied that figurehead of
greece then the
financial markets immediately down the next
day because they thought well if
the Greeks do not accept this then
we will never get our money back and that is
perhaps quite well seen
well that is how I was regularly in
Greece
2015 I spent so much time there and got
always from the greeks the question of are
you from the netherlands what do you
actually think of us
and that makes me a bit
uncomfortable sometimes yes what do you think about
the greeks we like to go on holiday
we think the greek food is very
tasty we like the greeks are actually
all very nice but we
do want our money back anyway not from
you want our money back
who of you thinks we will all get our money
back
well but that had to be explained
to the greeks that there was a small
problem in the Netherlands when you
come back then you actually experience
the same thing to understand what we want
our money back
and there are a lot of prejudices about
the Greeks some are abso luut where the
state is of course really a mess
this is there if you look at how the
tax works how the land registry
works that is really quite mess
the greeks are lazy to it is absolutely
not the case they really work more hours
a day than my do a lot more even
so the are quite a few prejudices
that made me always feel the need
to stand up for the greeks too because those
people there very often met
people who had fantastic ideas
about how to get out of the country
from this crisis but always
nothing came out so that was also the
moment that kony kees and i closed we
go here but they write a book about
what if you worked for news for
radio 1 news like could not work
then you get two and a half minutes or
actually the cove is floating just two
minutes in the eight o'clock news
and then you have to do the whole report
in six hours you can do that and emilie 20
well great fun tell a lot
nice images see but if you
talk to the people her and you will come
back and of course they want a
link to the broadcast if they
do not watch national there you
stay in contact with the people and then
you only hear after you have made the
report and you go there for a
coffee oh you only see the
real story and that is sometimes
really poignant
what happened in 2015
it was seven bizarre
months when this man
came to power in january 2015 what was the first time in
five years a crisis when there someone who said
I don't need this anymore we're going to stop
with those austerity measures
we're all going to change
tack he won the elections
by a large majority more than a
third of all the greeks vote for him he
became all of the largest party in one go
greece and this is what you see on the
elections
quality is there venus see
lily bart laurels and wraps is maria
here haha reeleezee is a sweet boy avy l
e pace advice diritto di d at i
the graphic
lily was just next to this was a kinky
holland landed is a disaster why
not one the nmbs that is not ordina
how do i stay another europe came with
my look to but that applies we got
it back were you this so I heard there
was a huge party that
night in the street people were really all night
long this is exactly what they wanted to
hear
after five years of crisis there would finally be
light at the end of the tunnel
people were for it
and we thought how are you doing end
because cycle can say this but
has no money
so what will happen
why we those people so happy the has
really happened a lot in the past year
in greece the for example the
health care
year has gone 40 percent of the budget
I don't know whether you
can imagine what happens then
but then you get that you have a look
or I yes then you get that you are in
hospitals like these movies
large hospital in athens and that the
hey lft of the ambulances is broken and that
there are no parts or there is no money
to buy parts the other half
actually they have no money at the time
when I filmed there was no money
for diesel they had to refuel with the army
luckily because so had to first
to the army to refuel then they could
go through athens again
if an accident happens in
your ass two injured people at the same time
take them the paramedic then we did
that even though they were pretty badly
injured
everything in an ambulance
there is a woman who we have to despina
and she tells us how things went inside the
hospital but of
course it was not always easy to get there with the
camera the privacy legislation in
greece is reasonably well regulated
food than here sometimes you think i have been there
with all without a camera
beds in the hallway she had to
bring sheets from home because the sheets were
on
cutlery so that her mother who we were in
hospital could eat
buy syringes in pharmacy because there were
no more syringes hospital in
shoes state hospitals
giving up riddle blood transfusion needed
mother and then she was put under enormous
pressure to find a blood donor
because if she couldn't find one
then maybe someone else had
no blood it was just real
the donor found someone she
knew who had the same blood type as her
mother
that is really something we can't
imagine very well such a woman
that despina that voice then of course
option pee
I walked on at that time went once
i hard which one early in the morning and there is one
there
has anyone ever been to athens yes
and you know you know the olympic stadium
that is the elderly who can pista that or and
early 20th century is a nice tip
can you run balk
so really beautiful with the whole city on
your chips now the beautiful
view
I was on the way there and I saw
a neat lady standing next to a
garbage can the one with a hair there
fishing out a bag with bread and I was really in
shock because I had seen bums
eating from garbage bags but this
lady is really quite nicely
dressed could have been my
mother and you know the numbers you know that
it's that the middle class has been wiped out
that's a lot of poverty but if
you see something like this early in the morning so that there are
n't many people on the street because
maybe they won't do that when
everyone goes back to work then that's quite
shocking and
I want to you also told the
story of mario's mario's who
worked in a bookstore in the center
of athens that we interviewer fortune
for a while this is still from my cameraman in
athens
your brand thank you limburg
the game would be there is me today acronym so
fixed amount it end get you misty
is a will that intimate yes sorry me now
tomorrow we are julia is there for is my
nose i have will frame on
is there even less yes but this breed is for
was it me sparrow eum
when we interview him lost the tour assize
job
anyway because had complained the
salary arrears had risen to
18,000 euros
he had been clear for so long two years
one a month we were filled by the
other then you get half
measures again then another not a month and all in
all 18,000 euros if you think well this
is a very special story so this
man has been badly hit well
no there are 850,000 people in greece
who have a salary
arrears for more than three months so
one in four
Greeks who works in the private sector
let the knife sink in and of
course voted this way as an option
pee because cypress that was the boy
charismatic leftist politician who
said he would do things completely
differently for a
while but how they went together with his
finance minister of how often is
full of confrontation with europe
blood boiling at the highest level
so everything is not their idea was europe that
says continuously about the brain so we
northern european countries say well
you have to stick to those
cutbacks then you will get some help from us
she said well it's done
don't get that debt away anyway and europe
oil really can't us out of the
eurom that that the first is allowed that
is not at all the is no rule is
really throw a country from the red side
is not body either
and secondly then they
actually have a lot harder on themselves because
what will happen if a country
out of the euro Italy will follow after that
frank they don't want that the costs are
just too high so in Europe's own interest
we
can go in hard because she won't do it anyway
so they went here with our own
minister dijsselbloem who is
still chairman of the euro group
negotiate with each other for months the
piglet the greeks the ordinary greeks who
no longer knew what they were doing
actually what they were terrified who
saw that if this would go wrong
that greece will be completely destroyed
that if they really would be kicked out of those euros
and not everyone believed
exactly what
far often they promised then what
happens then you go maybe 20 30
years back in time you get the
drachma
well then is there is no end at all
no light at the end of the
tunnel
so when i was in greece i saw
the queues at the banks certainly at
the end of the month when the
pensions were paid in the
salary sphere paid i first on
the people went to the bank
to listen and pick it up because you
'd better be at home and then that
bank will go bankrupt and then you will get
nothing at all
and that's what happened and the ecb just
ship money to athens
because those ATMs they had to
keep giving money what time those
ATMs seemed to come up
then the panic would break out was the
thought after that panic that sermon
would be over
this is in the middle i n the night when the
greeks knew that they
could pin the pins for the last time I
photographed a whole row
because cyprus had announced that there was
a referendum you
probably remember all
about those cutbacks from brussels and
it would be hard against hard go and we
had to say all negative
to the Greeks well that was the
great panic drive frankfurt the
money tap closed and the banks had
to lower shutters
people could no longer enter
which means that for people who
closed the banks
you could the so no longer withdraw money you
could withdraw money but 60 euros per day
by the way that is still so bad I
land that a lot of people don't know at
the moment you can spread it out
over the week so you can 420 euros at the
end of the withdrawing
a week there is still no pin what you have
in your bank account companies
if they want to transfer money must
be special commission that you have it a
few weeks before the toe give in to the fact that
money is shipped from the plant
plus it's the know many people
don't with is actually not that
much has changed
the first few weeks the week before the
referendum and the week after that means the bank is
completely closed for the old
people who did not have a debit card we in
greece had most razor-sharp
debit cards but then they
just couldn't access their money anymore
then they opened a few state
banks for those old people so that they
could access a money but also at the same time
a greek you had to draw a number you did
not know at which bank you had to what you
had to be registered somewhere
old people who were waiting all day
sometimes it was not even their turn well
those scenes this is
no huh no votes those scenes those
Last week we held that referendum that we really distressed the yard but in the end most people said no anyway' or see in the referendum we know how that ended a week
later the cypress said year because he had
no other choice and I think that those images
of those old people have certainly made the
difference for him because if you
had kept your feet up then he knew
that he had no more money for
pensions
so that was not a matter of
not being able to pick up money from the bank
was
not and i think he did not
dare i am sure he did
not dare
so greece summer 2015 got 86
billion euros in the offing
all problems would be solved you think we
are now a year and a half further and you
will never hear from
us again we still have the euro hurrah
who would have thought that at that moment and i
think you have to be careful with
that whether it is going well I wanted
to showed one
thing at those benches at night the
older people and who recognizes this man
this was the result of the referendum
and the newspaper had so big ice blue
everyone knows in friesland more
dijsselbloem is than you in athens betty
says she is from the netherlands she says
dijsselbloem
dijsselbloem you did not have such a very good
press the same is still not
happening with schäuble
schäuble the taxi driver she turns
has me we stood very nicely above and
mountains we would go down and she
who when I get him here in front of my nose push
bags with wheelchair from the
mountain with a straight face
and notice how natural here this we
have posters hanging with us in the
editors you still take them
this is a our beautiful picture but this is
someone who is demonstrating
with Merkel's photo
we are now a year later last
week greece received 2 billion
euros from that package of 86
billion because they have cut
further the taxes have
gone up further i don't know if anyone read it
in the paper
you become nothing more of
two more than 2 billion went that way
to this is what
[Applause]
yes
[Applause]
because a tripe ion is being cut, they
had to do something because the elderly who
tried to push that plus over but
also introduce it again so the anger is
still only it is out of the news
because of course we also have another
world problem at the moment the
refugees
obama are replacing them is by
someone we don't know what will
happen to it
syria i news is something that is a bit
fleeting in that respect on one
with all the balls on it and
now greece out of the news but i
started with the question why is the crisis going on
not over there are huge cutbacks
that's something we also don't
know about everyone, but really huge
cutbacks it's not only in
health care but also a lot of
areas and the government finances are in
good order
the comes in even slightly more than that
goes out so little, the greek government
is currently spending and the expectation would
be that the economy would grow again next year
after him, so 25%
over 25%
but you have to know that 500,000 young people
have left the country now they
are in the netherlands in england in
germany and these are mainly the
highly educated young so a whole
generation unemployment is still
above 50 percent has been put slightly
below by the way, because of that, a lot of
young people are attracted, but the young people
who leave the country
the future generation that would
really have to go back to
rebuild it there should be money for it,
for example, look at the banks that
are quite shaky half of all
loans on the balance sheet
there is a payment arrears on
half in the Netherlands it is less than 4
percent so no two and a half percent I
say wrong in the Netherlands the two and a
half percent in greece
almost 50 percent mortgages two thirds
of homeowners
have a payment arrears of more
than three months on his mortgage
two-thirds taxes
every
month the amount that the Greeks do not run to
pay the tax further on the debt
is now more than 90 billion euros that is the
latest figures from August 19 billion
euros so not even half of the
Greek economy and so or
300 billion euros has not been collected in the Netherlands,